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  Can You Really Become Inactive Instead of DA'ing and Keep Your Family

  by truth-or-consequences in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  oz branch coordinator terrence o'brien opined a number of times at about 1:00:00 until about 1:15:00 of his testimony, that a dub does not need to da, they can become "inactive.".

  i sent our beloved angus stewart my personal experience, as well as observations about official borg teachings.

  (he replied in short order.).

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  Black Sheep

  Every time I post on this forum, the second half of the post disappears.

  Satan gotcha, or what? I ain't gonna bother typing all that again.
  
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  Can You Really Become Inactive Instead of DA'ing and Keep Your Family

  by truth-or-consequences in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  oz branch coordinator terrence o'brien opined a number of times at about 1:00:00 until about 1:15:00 of his testimony, that a dub does not need to da, they can become "inactive.".

  i sent our beloved angus stewart my personal experience, as well as observations about official borg teachings.

  (he replied in short order.).

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  Black Sheep

  Yes, they can. And they can do it without losing contact with their family.

  But.... and it is a very big but. They are treading a very thin line. If they are confronted by two Elders who witness an admission that they are no longer believers, they will be announced as 'no longer JWs'; and be shunned the same as someone who DA'd or was DF'd.
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  We are not thinking folks. What is the best way to get JW's to check out the events in Australia.

  by James Mixon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  tell our jw family members, door knockers, and stand sitters that you were very impressed.

  by the branch overseer and other elders in australia, they gave a fine witness.. so what will happen, they will tell their friends the brothers in australia gave a fine.

  witness.

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  Black Sheep

  Tell them as little as possible. Ask them what is happening in Australia, then make them tell you. Make them do the explaining.

  Don't frighten them off with your opinions. Ask them for their's.

  Keep them honest.
  
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  The Secret is out....but nobody cares

  by MrTheocratic in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i've been looking on this site for some time but never posted.

  i'll give a little about myself, but not too much.

  i'm a ex-bethelite ( brooklyn )and currently serving as an elder (10 years) (thinking about stepping down) on the service committee.

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  Black Sheep

  First time I've posted her for ages and it trashed my post
  
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  Has anybody been guilted/emotionally blackmailed into attending the 2015 Memorial?

  by Bucholz in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hello everybody, i was wondering if anyone has been guilted or emotionally blackmailed into attending the memorial this year.

  something along the lines of "if you loved your family you would at least attend the memorial".

  i myself haven't attended in 5 years.

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  Black Sheep

  I never get invited. They know me. They know I was never baptised. They pretend they are my friends. They call in to say hello while doing the invite drop-off, but don't give me one.
  
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  Celebrate the Un-Memorial

  by rebel8 in

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  2. friends

  i was thinking that we could spend the memorial evening doing the exact opposite of what we used to do.. smile and laugh.

  have fun.

  dress comfortably.

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  Black Sheep

  I've been doing that for years. I have a beer at the local pub while the family Dubs have their annual 'Pretend Jesis is Important' scam.
  
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  Wow, the forum is very slow

  by FlyingHighNow in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i know that logging in has been a problem for some.

  i hardly post any more.

  i figured there would be more activity than this.

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  Black Sheep

  The first page I see is pretty sparse on all my devices and I haven't had time to educate myself on how to surf the site for something to read.  Was that country flag issue sorted?  That put me off for reasons I won't go into.
  
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  Poster country flags and privacy

  by Simon in

  1. forum
  2. announcements

  the new forum originally had a little country flag next to each post showing the country that the post was made from based on the geoip encoding (the country the ip address is from).

  before i switched over to the new site someone made an issue about it violating their privacy and i didn't want to complicate and confuse the switchover with policy debate at the same time as technical issues so removed the flags even though i disagreed.. someone has already requested it as a feature and i think it should be added back so i thought it's now time to open the discussion and get everyone's opinions.

  first, the reason i think it should be shown:.

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  Black Sheep

  I'm sure having a pretty little flag is fine for most people most of the time as long as they live in large countries with thousands of Dubs and don't live in, or occasionally post from, small countries where everyone knows everyone's business.
  
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  About the ten plagues in Egypt

  by runForever in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  alot of people are saying god is cruel for killing the firstborns and animals and people in the ten plagues.

  but didn't god achieve his goal of making nations and people be in fear of him?.

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  Exodus 9:5. How could he kill the first born animals when he had already killed them?
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  Is it worth it trying to wake up a friend and my parents?

  by Mr. Self-Destruct in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my situation right now is trying that how my friend and parents that the jw's are not the true religion.

  i've shown numerous examples of flip flopped doctrine, false predicions, the validity of the jesus choosing the bible students in 1919 and more.

  but it seems that although the recognize these mistakes they ask me, "aren't you happy the organization is making progress?

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  Black Sheep

  Don't tell them anything they shouldn't already know.

  Don't show them anything they shouldn't already know.

  Don't show them sources they won't/don't trust.

  Show them their own literatrash and ask them to explain it.

  Ask them questions.

  Don't answer their questions unless it suits your purposes.

  Don't accept diversions.

  Give them guilt trips for any devious tactics or bullying they try on you. Double standards are fair game here.

  Ask questions to highlight dishonesty and double standards, so that they are defending their actoins, and you are not you defending your statements.